Monday, 12 November 2012

WHP X RBMA : Flying Lotus, DJ Shadow, Squarepusher, Jamie xx ... 9th November 2012 REVIEW


I have already written this on facebook but I have a feeling it will be forgotten about fantastically quick by the Warehouse Project team as their wall posts are set to private. But anyway its a copy and paste job...sorry for the rant guys but I think it is well deserved...

"This is going out to what ever idiot runs @THE WAREHOUSE PROJECT you really need to sort your venue out big time. I was looking forward to the friday night just been WHP12 // WHP X RBMA for weeks and weeks. I booked my tickets the same day i saw the line up. I saw Flying Lotus and DJ Shadow and was intrigued from that moment on. Then I saw Squarepusher and pangea plus a lot of big heads lined up f
or the night. So I purchased 2 tickets at £25 for me and my misses. When I showed her the line up she was excited the same as me.

So megabus booked which was another £40. We travelled all the way from London on a 7hour megabus. We arrived in manchester got a taxi to the venue which was another £10, was suprised by how cheap taxi's were in manchester. But anyway we arrived at the venue to see police around, and your team there with sniffer dogs. In a way its a good approach as licensing can be very hard to gain from the Council. I have worked pub and bar jobs so I fully accept this approach. But you have firstly tried to capture the 'vibes' of an illegal warehouse/squat rave in your red bull sponsored venue, which no offence the culture revolved around deep music, good vibes and drugs. I was not carrying anything and I do not condone drug use. But also before any of you so called straight edge, 'I get pissed on alcohol every weekend and smoke 20 cigs a day hipsters' start winging about how I think you should accept drugs into your venues, you are ALREADY selling worse drugs in your venues. All I saw all night was loud, obnoxious drunk dickheads running around your gaff with absolutely no care or worries for anyone else around them. I nearly smashed 5 groups of peoples faces in. One lad tried to grope my misses, and not just have a little dance, he tried to grab her tits. If you think this is acceptable then again you have lost this battle and you should have your venue burnt down. We were standing at the front just trying to enjoy Martyn in the main room, and he came over, I was about to smash his face in and my misses did stop me. So we left after Martyn finished and once again got more hassle by DRUNK people. Not someone all happy and enjoying their evening on other substances. DRUNK people on the extreme amounts of alcohol you advertise and sell to them. Through out the night I got constantly barged by these cocks of people. It wasnt just a they were trying to get through the hordes of people, it was BARGING through with no care for anyone there. Again this is due to everyone being DRUNK.

So I waited around for Dj Shadow, got to the front of the crowd and was standing by the barriers at the front. There was a few people there just chilling waiting for him. Again, we got more hassle by drunk people, who elbowed a nice chap who was at the front. Im surprised he didnt lamp them, he didnt even get a sorry they just gave him a dirty look and started dancing like PRATS again. So anyway Dj Shadow comes on. I literally could not wait to see him. Ive seen him twice before and he has been amazing. The venues ive seen him at were Brixton Academy and o2 Wireless in Hyde Park. I knew it would be slightly different as he was doing a DJ set. But who did your rig and sound setup? As they firstly do not deserve to be paid. They did the most awful job of everything that evening, and maybe every evening you run. I understand house, dubstep, jungle drum'n'bass all have wicked basslines and thats what makes a track. But have you guys forgotten about mid's and trebles? I mean Dj Shadow as a professional DJ and producer should of known better as well. There comes to a point were a system has too much bass. Which maybe everyone in manchester likes when they are pissed out of their face. But to be someone who enjoys music properly, your venue sounded like a vauxall corsa, with 28 Subwoofers in the back. I could of watched Dj Shadow do his set, as I love turntablism and aspect of Dj'ing but when you cant hear a thing of what they are doing, and all you do is hear shit bass that makes it hard to breath, its just wack. So I travelled all the way manchester, to walk out after 5 minutes DJ Shadow to go outside. So all I can say is I was disappointed by that, not being able to enjoy one of the two people I really wanted to see.

So went outside, which took AGES to get outside as your one way system works more shit than soho at rush hour with taxis stopping ever 10 seconds. So were outside, and as expected the vibe was wack outside. No one chats to anyone, which at any other party I fully expect to go outside and just randomly start talking to people. Ive done it all over the country and even all over europe. Yet your venue, nope, no one. Just grumpy, moody aggy people, which was disappointing as I have more than 10-15 friends from manchester who ALWAYS say people are safe as up there. So went to go back inside after wasting nearly an hour until Flying Lotus was on stage. As we were going back in we saw ANOTHER person getting pretty roughly man handled and thrown out by your security. I had a guess it was over drugs and we over hear one of your so called 'undercover hipsters' who was following them had entrapped him into the situation. He asked this random guy if he had any MD he could have. So this guy maybe around 20-21 offered him some on a friendly level. Which everyone and if you havent seen this then dont chat bullshit, can quite happily admit they have seen happen on many, many occasions. If you enjoy a vibe you like everyone else to enjoy this as well. So this kid who was getting thrown out, wasnt dealing or selling. He just offered on a friendly vibe to one of your undercover guys he can have some. Which low and behold, ruined this poor, friendly guys night, I bet he was one of the many few nice, apologetic people from the crowd who wasnt steaming drunk off your red bull sponsored alcohol, barging and groping girls. Oh wait I know why your stance is so tough on drugs, is it because people happy, and on other substances dont buy your alcohol so you dont make money? Once again youve removed one element of a warehouse party from your so called 'warehouse party'. Anyway after feeling sorry for this guy as your security threw him towards the police we darted back inside to see flying lotus. Here we go on the one way system again, took like 10-15 minutes.

So we got to the main room, which Shadow had sounded so, sooo awful on an hour before. Low and behold, you should of dug up the sound guy who we've already shot for ruining dj shadow and shot him again. If Im not mistaken this is also a fault of the producer/person dj'ing in this case Flying Lotus. So dont get me completely wrong im not blaming the venue 100% here as the DJ/Producer can easily do something about this. But if im not wrong this was a night, mainly for Flying Lotus' new album launch. So really he would of liked to promote his new songs on a good level. No offence you did completely the opposite. All that could be heard was a dirty, dirty bass rumble which was horrible. Not just extra bass like you get at every venue, we were on the full on corsa effect again. No mids and No Treble. It is ABSOLUTELY gutting to go to a venue to hear good music and it is RUINED by an absolute waste of a rig. I hear better, more professional sounding rigs at house parties and small illegal raves. I would blame it just being in an acoustically shit building but Ive heard much better in much worse buildings. I couldnt even tell what song he was playing or even if it was a song playing. Like with Shadow, I was thoroughly disappointed by the lack of experience or just lack of knowledge you have with setting up and levelling your venue right. You go to a club such as tiger tiger to get pissed and not care about the music. But when your going to a venue such as yours this JUST for the music, you need to have it 100% BANG ON. Producers pay professionals, who have trained their ears for years to master the levels on their tracks. So whats the need to waste this process by ramming the bass knob to +10. Even if I was drunk, or on drugs, or in another world, I couldnt of enjoyed the music. Oh and once again, MORE hassle from drunk people barging and people being general inconsiderate dicks. Maybe as I wasnt drunk like these muppets it meant I wasnt feeling their 'shit' vibe. But why should I have to spend £100, and get drunk just to 'enjoy' the vibes of your venue. 

So again like Shadow, after hearing 2 songs, which might not even of been songs, it took around 5 minutes to decide to walk out of his set. We wandered around for a bit and we decided to just hit up the boiler rooms raggo tent setup in the corner. All I can say is Boiler Room you saved the WHOLE evening. We got to see around 25-30 minutes of Martyn dj'ing and it smashed it. It was a small selection of people, but what a difference to the rest of the crowd. It was happy, chilled, everyone was enjoying the tunes he was spinning. Im a vinyl fanatic so to see some 12" spinning also made me happy already, could at least just enjoy watching him. Oh and also who ever setup their rags tent did better than who ever setup EVERY other room in the whole venue. My ears were blessed with some treble and mid tones. What an absolute shocker right there! So he finished the last thing they were doing for the night. It made a good send off for the worst venue I have ever been to, and I am totally serious on saying its the WORST venue for music I have ever been to.

To anyone who hates on what Im saying why dont you give me love back. As I would love to know what kind of view you had on this evening. Maybe for a drunken night out it was good for you all. But if theres music heads who appreciates good music at a proper venue your opinion will be probably be accepted more than an 18 year old girl who drunk her first jagerbomb that night. All im saying is I wasted near £100 for one of the worst music nights Ive ever had.

5 comments:

  1. Granted there were a load of dicks there that night, but I'm sorry THEY ARE EVERYWHERE!!!

    As for the venue, there are worse venues out there, and if they are trying to create a dingy dark warehouse vibe...They have succeeded. The rig and the acoustics were fine.

    If you want crystal clear audio and not to bothered why don't you just stay at home and listen to all the artists albums on a pair of Bose headphones in a dark room whilst staring at a glitter ball.

    I'm not being deliberately horrible, I just feel that you may want to lower your expectations of what a night out clubbing actually is. I and my friend spent close to £200 on our trip and our conclusion was probably the polar opposite of yours.

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  2. I had a brilliant night. Spent most of it in Room 2 and didn't encounter any dickheads (though I don't doubt there were some). Met quite a few friendly folk actually. There weren't any girls with our group though so we didn't have to deal with lecherous shit.

    I'm not sure what you expect the WHP people to do about alcohol. Your problem there seems to be with society in general.

    Overall I thought the whole thing was pretty well organised considering the scale of it. I've experienced much worse.

    Shame you had a bad one.

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  3. I didnt bother with room 2 as there was no one playing in there I wanted to see...my problem is the general vibe of the place...its horrid!

    Also barrett are you literally that oblivious to a good sound system? I dont expect a crystal clear system...but i dont expect someone to FUCK the levels up as bad as they did...when all you can hear is bass...and so much bass there is no point in even playing a song...that is FUCKED...and they havent achieved a dingy warehouse vibe at all...i was at a warehouse/squat rave a week before in london and trust me...they had a good vibe and an AMAZING rig setup...oh yer and it wasnt just bass...you could hear music out of it...

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  4. yeah all a bit of a rant really, i mean most of it is you having a go because they sell alcohol and don't allow illegal drugs..which lets be honest you can't really blame them for, as Provan said that's more wider society than the event organisers... Then there is a rant about the people there, again something the organisers have little control over, who ever turns up turns up. Then there is a rant about security, which fair enough whilst it sounds like they may have used slightly underhand tactics, who goes on a night out and actually expects to like the bouncers and their methods? There's far worse "security" than what you experienced. And then finally there's the soundsystem, which is really a matter of opinion...so all this is is a matter of opinion on the sound quality of a night out...

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  5. I have to agree with part of the plan on this one about levels and quality of sound.. while we as music lovers understand about setups in clubs,warehouses etc.. there is a thing as too much bass.Simple fact is a lot of companies find it easier to throw the gain up on the low end and it takes them half the time to calibrate it.. i know because ive worked for companies like it. Quality is being able to at least follow the track.. POTP makes valid points on this and Barrett just for your information mate Bose don't concentrate on offering a major amount of midrange in their products.. bit of friendly info ;)

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